More Jays and Expos for the Pile.

Well, not really the pile.. They're in binders now.. :P

So I recently made a purchase of some Jays and Expos from Bob (BOBSCARDZ) on the Trading Card Database. Some old, some older, all cool.. :)

First we have a group of 1979 Topps Expos cards. Steve Rogers is probably the best known as an Expo out of these ones. Grimsley had a 20 win season for the Expos in 1978. Dan Schatzeder had two stints with the Expos. He was in the first one when this card was printed. Bahnsen was near the end of his career. Cash spent three seasons in Montreal before finishing his MLB career with San Diego. 

Now some 1979 Blue Jays. I really like the Upshaw and Howell cards. Upshaw spent all but one season with Toronto, finishing his career with Cleveland in 1988. Lemanczyk pitched from 1977-1980 with Toronto, finishing his 1980 season and career with California. Howell spent 1977-1980 with Toronto before going to Milwaukee to finish his career. Coleman spent 31 games with Toronto in 1978 before going to San Francisco and Pittsburgh to finish his career

1981 Fleer Expos! Bill Spaceman Lee. I've read his second book, but I've never been able to find the first one. He spent 1979-1982 with the Expos. Rodney Scott was another who did two stints for the Expos. He played in 1976, then was back in 1979 until 1982 before going to the Yankees in 1982 to finish off his career. Valentine spent 1975-1981 with the Expos before going to the Mets, Angels, Rangers, and Japan. Speier spent 1977-1984 with the Expos before going to St. Louis, Minnesota, the Cubs, and back to San Francisco. 

Bob Davis spent 1979 and 1980 with Toronto. He finished his career the next year with one game for California at the MLB level. 

1981 Topps! Tony Bernazard spent 1979 and 1980 with Montreal before going to the White Sox. From there he went to Seattle, Cleveland, Oakland, Detroit, and Japan. 

Woodie Fryman spent 1975-1976 with Montreal before going to Cincinnati and the Cubs before returning in 1978 and stayed until 1983. And Rodney Scott makes another appearance. 

Another Bill Lee and Steve Rogers.. Fred Norman ended his career in 1980 with the Expos. 

Stan Bahnsen and Ellis Valentine make appearances again here. 

Cromartie spent 1974-1983 with the Expos before going to Japan, finishing his career with Kansas City in 1991. He's currently leading a group trying to get Major League Baseball back to Montreal. 

Rowland Office spent 1980-1982 with the Expos. He was released in May of 1982 and spent the rest of the season in the minors. He finished his career with the Yankees in 1983. 

Elias Sosa spent 1979-1981 with the Expos before going to Detroit and San Diego. 

John D'Acquisto pitched 11 games for Montreal in 1980. He went to California and Oakland to finish his career.

A couple 1982 Fleer. Joey McLaughlin pitched for the Jays from 1980-1984. He finished with Texas in 1984. 

Damaso Garcia played for the Jays from 1980-1986. He went to Atlanta and Montreal to finish his career.

Doug Flynn played for Montreal between 1982-1985 before going to Detroit to finish off the 1985 season and his career. 

Another Upshaw.

Hosken Powell played 1982 and 1983 with the Jays. 

Ernie Whitt played for the Jays from 1977-1989. He went to Atlanta in 1990 and Baltimore in 1991

Jesse Barfield played from 1981-1989 with the Jays before moving onto the Yankees in a trade. He spent 1993 in Japan to finish his career.

Barry Bonnell spent 1980-1983 with Toronto before going to their expansion cousins, the Seattle Mariners. Bonnell's post baseball life may be more interesting.. He's worked as a pilot, in the Home Medical Equipment field, and as a writer. 

Another Joey McLaughlin. 

Jim Clancy pitched for the Jays from 1977-1988. He went to Houston and Atlanta to finish.

Jerry Garvin played from 1977-1982 with the Jays. He's now in real estate.

Roy Lee Jackson played from 1981-1984 with the Jays before going to San Diego and Minnesota. 

Buck Martinez played for the Jays from 1981-1986 before retiring. He now does commentary on the Jays TV broadcasts along with another former Jay, Pat Tabler and occasionally, Dan Shulman.

Lloyd Moseby played from 1980-1989 with Toronto before going to Detroit for two seasons, then Japan. 

Rance Mulliniks.. I have an irrational dislike of this guy. I think it comes from his broadcasting. Anyway, he was a Jay from 1982-1992, winning the Series with the Jays. 

Dale Murray spent 1981 and 1982 with Toronto before going to the Yankees and Texas to finish his career.

Geno Petralli played for Toronto in 1982-1984. Petralli went on to play in Texas, backing up some guy named Ivan Rodriguez. 

Rick Leach played for the Jays from 1984-1988. He went to Texas and San Francisco after his stint.

Mark Eichhorn did two tours with Toronto. He played in 1982, then 1986-1988 before signing with California. In 1992, he was traded to Toronto and spent 1992 and 1993 with the Jays. 1994 was spent with Baltimore and 1996 in California. 

John Cerutti played from 1985-1990 with the Jays before going to Detroit. Cerutti was a broadcaster for Toronto after his playing career. He was on CBC and Sportsnet before he passed in 2004.

Wayne Krenchicki played for Montreal in 1986, his final season in the majors. Since then he's played in the Senior League then managed in the minors. 

Bob McClure played for Montreal in 1986-1988. He then went to California, St. Louis, and Florida to finish his career. After his playing career ended, he went into coaching.

Andy McGaffigan played for Montreal twice. 1984 then again in 1986-1989. He almost always had a beard or mustache, but doesn't in this photo since he was on the Reds. After Montreal, he went to San Francisco and Kansas City.

George Wright spent the 1986 season with Montreal, his final in the Majors. He spent a couple seasons in Japan then played until 1997 in Mexico. 

Jay Tibbs played for Montreal in 1986 and 1987 before going to Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

Some Pinnacle from 1992.. I love this set. I think it'd be one that I'd like to finish sometime. 

Juan Guzman played for Toronto from 1991-1998, going to Baltimore, Cincinnati, and Tampa Bay afterwards. 

Todd Stottlemyre played for Toronto 1988-1994. He won two World Series with Toronto. After Toronto, he played for Oakland, St. Louis, Texas, and Arizona. He's now in the business world, the Regional Vice President of ACN Inc.

Jack Morris pitched for the Jays in 1992 and 1993 before finishing with Cleveland in 1994. Post career, Morris has gone into broadcasting. He's worked for the Twins and Tigers mostly, but did a season for the Jays. 

Manuel Lee played for Toronto from 1985-1992. He finished with Texas and St. Louis. 

Kelly Gruber played for Toronto from 1984-1992. He finished with California in 1993. Gruber tried making a comeback in 1997 but retired for health reasons. Now, he does motivational speaking.

Roberto Alomar. The only Jays Hall of Fame player played for the Jays from 1991-1995. He played for Baltimore, Cleveland, the Mets, Diamondbacks and White Sox after his time with the Jays.

Dave Stieb played for the Jays from 1979-1992, then again in 1998. He spent 1993 with the White Sox then retired. He returned for 1998 when he was in Spring Training as an instructor.

Jimmy Key played for the Jays from 1984-1992 before going to the Yankees and Orioles. After he retired, he became involved in golfing. 

Greg Myers played for Toronto from 1987-1992 and again from 2003-2005. In the Jays sandwich, he played for California, Minnesota, Atlanta, San Diego, Oakland, and Baltimore.

A Roberto Alomar Shades card.. An insert that was part of the base set. Pinnacle had a few of these. 

Devon White played for Toronto from 1991-1995, playing for Arizona, Florida, Los Angeles, and Milwaukee afterwards. 

Tom Henke played for Toronto from 1985-1992. He got his nickname from John Cerutti after they saw the movie The Terminator together. He played in Texas and St. Louis. Now he works with some charities around his home.

John Olerud played in Toronto from 1989-1996 before going to New York (Mets), Seattle, The Yankees, and Boston. 

Joe Carter played for Toronto from 1991-1997. He played for Baltimore and San Francisco afterwards. Post playing, he did some broadcasting, doing Jays games in 1999 and 2000. He then did Cubs games in 2001-2002. Every year he holds a celebrity golf tournament in Toronto for the Toronto Children's Aid Society.

Derek Bell played in Toronto in 1991 and 1992 before going to San Diego, the Mets, Houston, and Pittsburgh. In Pittsburgh he enacted "Operation Shutdown" saying he should be given an every day spot because he was a veteran, regardless of his performance. It didn't work out well for him.. He was released and as Mark Madden put it, became the Ultimate Pirate: Living on a boat and stealing money. He has also been arrested twice for drug possession.

Delino DeShields played for Montreal from 1990-1993, going on to play for the Dodgers, Cardinals, Orioles, and Cubs. Post playing, he started the Urban Baseball League with Oil Can Boyd. He has also done managing in the minor leagues. His son currently plays on the Rangers.

Ivan Calderon played for the Expos from 1991-1992. He spent 1993 with the Sox, both Red and White.

Tim Wallach played for the Expos from 1980-1992, finishing his career with the Dodgers and Angels. He has been in coaching/managing since then. 

Larry Walker played in Montreal from 1989-1994, going to the Rockies and Cardinals afterwards. He does coaching for the Canadian National teams.

Mark Gardner pitched for Montreal from 1989-1992 before going to Kansas City, Florida, and San Francisco to finish his career. He's now coaching. 

Spike Owen played for the Expos from 1989-1992 before going to the Yankees and Angels to finish. Owen is now coaching, this season with the Rangers.

Gary Carter played for the Expos from 1974-1984 then again in 1992. In between he played for the Mets, Dodgers, and Giants. Carter had been managing until he passed away.

Gilberto Reyes played for Montreal in 1989 and 1991. He played in the minors and Mexican leagues until 1999. 

Archi CIanfrocco played for the Expos from 1992-1993. He played for the Padres for the rest of his career. Post playing, he worked for a company called Xyratex, which seems to have been bought by Seagate.

John Vander Wal played for the Expos from 1991-1993. After that he played for Colorado, San Diego, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, The Yankees, Milwaukee, and Cincinnati. After his playing days, he got into scouting. 

Well, I hope that was a little informational as well. :) 

1994 Whiskey Jacks

I've shown a couple team sets from the Thunder Bay Whiskey Jacks in previous blog posts here and here. Now, I want to show the program from a game I went to in 1994..

Now, for those who may not know where Thunder Bay is, I've also thrown in a map

Thunder Bay is on the north shore of Lake Superior near the Minnesota border. 

Now for the program

A rather ordinary cover. 

The inside cover is this ad for the Investors Group. 

The schedule for the 1994 Whiskey Jacks plus some ads for the area. 

Two things jump out at me.. The name of the person from the Creator's Post and the Tim Horton's ad. 

Tim Horton's is a national chain of doughnut shops that has expanded into the northern US. At the time, Tim's weren't very common in the northern part of Ontario. We had a different chain called Robin's Donuts. Now, Tim's are everywhere.

League President message and some more ads. 

One of the things about Thunder Bay is they have a lot of streets named for metals and metal related things. Tungsten, Alloy, etc.

The standings from 1993. As you can see, the Jacks were 6 games back of first place. 

Some more ads surrounding the returning Jacks. 

Holsum is an international company that licensed their recipes to independent bakeries to produce the Holsum bread. In Thunder Bay, that was Shaw Bakeries. 

I remember when I was younger there being a closure there, but it seems as though the company is still around, so I don't know. 

Got to have the promo schedule somewhere. Also an anti-smoking ad from the Thunder Bay District Health Unit. 

The score card, Jacks side. 

The visitors. This game was Jacks against the Winnipeg Goldeyes. The Goldeyes are still around in the American Association of Independent Baseball. 

The only one of the Goldeyes I know is Dann Bilardello. lol I just wish there was somewhere on these programs to put the pitching lines/information.

Concessions at Port Arthur Stadium. Really nothing too far from the ordinary. Since then of course there are many places that have regional foods on their menus. One that would be in Thunder Bay is a pastry called a Persian. 

The Northern League as it was in 1994. Duluth, St Paul, Sioux Falls, Sioux City, and Thunder Bay were charter teams. Rochester, Minnesota was replaced with Winnipeg. 

Roster rules and League history. The league was considered a "rebirth" of the old Northern League that included teams like the Winnipeg Goldeyes, St Cloud Rox, Superior Blues, Fort William/Port Arthur Canucks, Duluth Dukes, among others. These previous iterations were affiliated leagues.

Some more information on the 1993 season.. And McDonald's Pizza Ad!! 

Unwritten rules.. Well, now they're written down :P

Also some baseball terms. 

Also, an ad for Grand Portage casino in Grand Portage, Minnesota. 

Team staff and an autograph section. I have two of them.. One is Matt Smith, the other one may be Greg Smock.. 

The full 1994 schedule and more ads. 

Thunder Bay Mobility ad. They are now TBay Tel. 

So there's a look at the 1994 Whiskey Jacks program I unearthed not too long ago. 

Now With...

In the 1980s there were not as many sets as there are now. There were more manufacturers, yes, but not nearly the same number of sets. 

Topps started doing Traded and Update sets to cover player movement. Fleer and Donruss followed suit. One company however, just threw a line of text on the card and called it a day. 

O-Pee-Chee, a Canadian company that had an agreement with Topps to print using the same design, but catered more to the Canadian market. This means more Expos and Jays and adding French to the cards as well. 

In the early to mid 80s, the O-Pee-Chee sets tended to be smaller than the Topps sets. They also were not as well-produced, with lower quality card stock and cutting techniques. 

Another thing O-Pee-Chee did was, rather than airbrushing the photo or releasing an updated set later in the season, they slapped the text "Now on 'Team X'" on the Topps card and called it a day.

It might be easier to show, rather than explain.. 

1984 Topps Courtesy TCDB

So here we have a 1984 Barry Bonnell card. This is his OPC card on the left. On the right is the Topps card. 

Now, Bonnell was traded by the Blue Jays on December 8, 1983 to the Seattle Mariners for Bryan Clark. 

Topps didn't change his card until the Traded set later in the season. O Pee Chee added in "Now With Mariners" on the front of the card by Bonnell's knee. 

1984 Traded Courtesy TCDB

And here's the Topps Traded card for reference. 

Bonnell is not an isolated case. I have a few of these from 1983 and 1984 that I'm going to highlight today.

1984 OPC Bill Caudill.

Caudill was traded by the Mariners on November 23, 1983 to the Athletics with Darrel Akerfelds for Dave Beard and Bob Kearney

Bill Caudill is also featured in the Traded set as card 23T . (All Links open in a new window)

Dave Beard was part of the Bill Caudill trade I mentioned above. 

And of course, Dave Beard in the Traded Set.

Dave Parker signed as a Free Agent with the Cincinnati Reds on December 7, 1983. 

And the Traded Card 

Gary Ward was traded December 7, 1983 to the Rangers for Sam Source, John Butcher, and Mike Smithson. 

As usual, the Traded Card 

Frazier was traded to the Indians on February 5, 1984 along with Otis Nixon and a Player to be Named Later (Guy Elston) for Toby Harrah and a Player to be Named Later (Rick Browne)

Now, the interesting thing is for his Traded card, he's not shown as a memeber of the Indians.. In fact, he's a Cub. The reason? 

On June 13, 1984, he was traded with Ron Hassey and Rick Sutcliffe for Darryl Banks, Joe Carter, Mel Hall, and Don Schulze.

On December 7, 1983, Thomas was traded with Jack Perconte to the Mariners for Tony Bernazard.

Here is the Traded Card as well. (He just looks odd as anything but a Brewer)

Speaking of Brewers, Jim Slaton. 

December 20, 1983 Jim Slaton was traded to the Angels for Bobby Clark

Traded

January 23, 1984 he signed as a Free Agent with the Oakland Athletics. 

The Traded Card

January 5, 1984, he signed as a free agent with the Yankees. 

His Traded Card 

January 20, 1984 Seaver was chosen by the White Sox as a Free Agent compensation pick 

Under the rules of the day, teams losing a free agent could draft a compensation player from the team that signed the Free Agent. The Mets, thinking nobody would want to take a 39 year old pitcher with a high salary, left Seaver unprotected.. Oops.. 

(I remember reading that this transaction was the kick needed to revamp the compensation system)

And Tom Terrific as a White Sox

On December 8, 1983 he was traded to the Orioles for Tim Stoddard.

Here's the Traded!

On December 1, 1982 he signed as a Free Agent with the Pittsburgh Pirates

His Traded Card 

On December 14, 1982, he was traded with Al Holland to the Phillies for CL Penigar, Mark Davis, and Mike Krukow. 

Now, Morgan has an extra interesting part. In the 1983 set, there were Super Vet cards. Morgan is one of those who received such a card. The note of his change is reflected both on this card above and on the Super Vet.

His Traded Card 

On December 22, 1982, Mazzilli was traded to the Pirates for Jerry Aubin, Bubba Holland, Jose Rivera, and Tim Burke. 

Mazzilli as a Pirate

On February 5, 1983, Leon Roberts was traded to the Royals for Cecil Fielder

His Traded Card

On December 9, 1982, he was traded with Jay Baller, Julio Franco, George Vuckovich, and Jerry Willard to the Indians for Von Hayes 

His Traded Card 

On December 10, 1982 Omar Moreno signed with the Astros as a free agent

His Traded Card

On January 5, 1983 Rich Gale was traded to the Reds for Mike Vail

Traded Card

On December 6, 1982, Armas and Jeff Newman were traded to the Red Sox for Jerry King, Garry Hancock, and Carney Lansford.

Traded

So here are the cards I have. I guess without the ability/need/demand for the traded sets this was the best OPC could do.